Welcome to DZone's new IndicZone community for Indian IT Pros

Let me welcome all of you to the new DZone community for one of the most important and fastest growing groups in the worldwide IT scene: Indian developers and IT professionals. No matter where you look, if something interesting is happening on the IT and technology front, then there is almost surely Indian brainpower and ingenuity somewhere behind the scenes.

This is a new and unusual community for DZone to serve, and I feel it is crucial to say up front that ALL developers are welcome, no matter where in the world they live and work, and no matter what their country of origin. The defining factor here at IndicZone must be a shared interest in matters of relevance to Indian developers and IT pros, not any form of bias or prejudice. India's economy is on the rise, and more than one out of every six humans on the planet is Indian. Therefore, we ALL share an interest in the healthy growth of this powerful rising star, and the opportunites both within India and abroad are abundant.

So, in the spirit of innovation, let's begin to innovate within the DZone communities and share knowledge and insights to increase global awareness and understanding of this incredibly important group. Welcome to IndicZone, and let's work together to make it a great resource that is worth visiting regularly!

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Tony Thomas replied on Thu, 2008/02/14 - 11:29am

Wow...!! what a start.. come on India...

Abhay Bakshi replied on Thu, 2008/02/14 - 1:05pm

It is quite important for ALL developers - no matter where in the world they live and work, and no matter what their country of origin - to visit this zone and contribute.

This zone will bring out the best in everybody who is communicating over here. This is the information age, and the constructive thoughts are always going to be welcome - no matter where and when they are expressed.

Progress is a law of Nature, and this is a sign of progress. Free expression in writing or saying is greatly appreciated and is necessary today. Take advantage of the IndicZone resource.

Best regards,

Abhay Bakshi

Kirill Grouchnikov replied on Thu, 2008/02/14 - 3:54pm in response to: j2eecop

Would you mind illuminating me and explain why is this so special to IndicZone? Why this specific zone deserves special contributions? Why this specific zone will bring out the best in the contributors? Why do you imply that other zones inhibit progress and free expression?

 

Kirill Grouchnikov replied on Thu, 2008/02/14 - 5:42pm in response to: j2eecop

I don't really follow your logic. How is this specific zone any different in bringing out the best in the contributors? How is this specific zone any different in the level of importance? How is this a sign of progress? How is this zone any freer than other zones?

Gaurang Patel replied on Thu, 2008/02/14 - 10:42pm

Thanks Rick.

Anthony Grace replied on Fri, 2008/02/15 - 11:39am

What about an "Irish Zone"? I mean, St. Brendan did discover America in 500AD ;-)

Rick Ross replied on Fri, 2008/02/15 - 4:01pm in response to: bognit

[quote=bognit]What about an "Irish Zone"? I mean, St. Brendan did discover America in 500AD ;-)[/quote]

Well, if it can be "St. Patrick's Zone" then I'm OK with that on March 17th every year :) 

Anthony Grace replied on Fri, 2008/02/15 - 4:14pm in response to: rick

LOL

 

BTW, beautiful design! 

Abhay Bakshi replied on Fri, 2008/02/15 - 5:14pm in response to: kirillcool

Hello Kirill:

All our friendly (really friendly and mature) conversation is at the URL: http://www.dzone.com/links/dzone_new_indiczone_community_for_indian_it_pros.html.

Have a great day, buddy. :)

Abhay Bakshi

 

John Catherino replied on Fri, 2008/02/15 - 5:21pm

Whilst I may not be Indian myself; what a great idea this is, definitely count me in! :-)

Rick Ross replied on Sat, 2008/02/16 - 3:54am

At DZone.com, Abhay Bakshi was asked the question:

What is so special that it deserves a separate zone? If i replace "IndicZone" with "any other specific zone", then why do we need it at all?

I won't presume to know Abhay's response to this, but I know my own. There are plenty of news outlets and blogs that focus on covering the Silicon Valley community. It's understandable, since there's a lot of activity in that community, and it often has impact much more far-reaching than the geographical locale in which it occurs. Sometimes the coverage is even specialized, making less sense to those of us on the outside that it does to Silicon Valley insiders. Silicon Valley has a culture and an economy that are unique and significant, if somewhat peculiar to a guy who lives in North Carolina :)

Likewise, there's an incredible amount of activity happening in the global community of Indian developers. India, itself, is a rising power in terms of both economic and intellectual capital. Further, there are significant referents that would be recognizable to any reasonably informed Indian, but which are unfamiliar to most of the rest of us. Names like Preity Zinta, Rani Mukherjee, and Isha Koppikar are likely familiar to as large an audience of moviegoers as names like Susan Sarandon, Kate Winslett and Penelope Cruz. To many readers, however, these will be completely unfamiliar names.

So, what are the Indian names that compare similarly to Andy Grove, Sam Palmisano and Tim O'Reilly? Although each of those names will be familiar to the Western reader, what about a name like Shri Ramadorai? Who's that? Ask any Indian developer or IT professional :)

Rick

Sandeep Khurana replied on Sat, 2008/02/16 - 4:30pm

Thanks and Congrats. Thats what I was waiting for a long time.

Vinodh Lakshmin... replied on Sun, 2008/02/17 - 11:49pm

Rick,

This is indeed wonderful. Hailing from India, this will definitely be an asset to all of us (the IT professionals the world over) I just hope that we would be able to contribute much more than today and have a positive impact of this zone. Thank you so much!

 

vishy singh replied on Mon, 2008/02/18 - 12:44pm

Thanks a ton rick

Mark Haniford replied on Fri, 2009/03/06 - 10:30am

Then a China zone is needed too.  This is just the wrong move.

AngelaE8654 replied on Tue, 2009/03/10 - 6:39pm

There is a lot of "techie" brain power in India; that's for sure.  I have a friend there and he knows a lot of technical things that I, myself, kind of struggle with.  I am not sure why a "zone" has been developed for India, but I agree that a lot of technical information comes from that area.

 

Angela

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gullbird replied on Sun, 2009/04/12 - 4:13pm

Thanks as well india my naburehod not see any thing for Pakistan Pak Tech Solutions

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provillus replied on Fri, 2009/06/19 - 12:27am

Though the idea is great, Have you got any success? How many indian it pros have joined Indiczone?

 Provillus

joangracoffande replied on Sun, 2009/06/21 - 3:19pm

India certainly is an up and coming technical powerhouse. I agree that it certainly deserves its own "zone", although China should have one as well. Outsourcing to China is becoming quite big these days as well.

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amritaarora01 replied on Tue, 2009/06/23 - 2:47am

Would you mind illuminating me and explain why is this so special to IndicZone? Though the idea is great.

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reenu replied on Tue, 2009/06/23 - 3:07am

This is really a great idea for the developers to share their some ideas and knowledge about some technical points.

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provillus replied on Wed, 2009/07/01 - 7:12am

Is Indiczone really one of the most important and fastest growing groups in the worldwide IT scene? How can you say that?

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neoni replied on Thu, 2009/07/09 - 7:06am

I really like the idea behind this. To share knowledge is always a fine thing.

 

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softwarevisuali... replied on Sun, 2009/07/12 - 1:49pm

I have to agree that dividing ourselves up into ethnic categories, which, no matter what is said is what is happening here, is a very bad thing.

You can say it's to promote Indian technology, but the reaction you're getting from people should give you pause for thought.

This is the point-  it's not like Indians are not successful in technology; it's not like they're being oppressed.

We understand group identification and solidarity when it's a reaction to oppression and discrimination. When it's not, it starts to look like what Yale Law School professor Amy Chua describes in her book "World On Fire" - an attempt to establish and perpetuate a "market dominant minority" which then wields a disproportionate amount of political and economic power, disenfranchising other minorities in the process and in the extreme establishing an ethnically-defined wealthy elite that colludes to exclude others from wealth and political power.

 That may sound jolly good to some people, but in reality we don't want anything to do with establishing such a regime or being a member of such an elite. It absolutely tears whatever country apart that it emerges in. Maybe Kirill is sensing that, I don't know. Chua gives numerous examples in  Indonesia, Russia, Sierra Leone and other places where that dynamic has been permitted to establish itself  and the blood letting the destruction that follows on its heels.

It's not too much to say that just as Americans have a long sordid history of racial exclusion and concentration of power in the hands of an elite in the U.S., so also Indians have a long history of discrimination based on caste.

Implicitly, Indian technolgists are almost all from the Brahmin caste and the caste system is alive and well in India today. Establishing an Indian Zone is playing to a well primed sentiment that doesn't need to be reinforced in any way.

I think you could see my point if I said I was starting a White Southerner's Zone (but everyone of all races are  welcome) using as a reason that the Sun Belt is so economically important to the U.S. and half of Americans are from the South and it's just a matter of fact that White's started I.T. and everywhere you look you see a White contributing something important to I.T. and the history of I.T. is filled with distinguished Whites. 

 How does that idea strike you? That's how you're making everyone else feel. They're telling you that, but you have to listen. 

 I suggest (implore, really) you and anyone else interested to have an educated and fact based opinion on this subject read Amy Chua's book on what happens to countries that permit market dominant minorities to emerge.  This is what we what to get away from, not move towards.

 You ( meaning, all of us) want to be someone important, at the center of things, making things happen. But with rights comes responsibilities, and one of your responsibilities is to see the larger whole of which you're a part and understand how your actions effect that larger whole. It's irresponsible not to do that work.

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marthagfy96 replied on Wed, 2009/11/11 - 6:31pm

Great article and great site too! ;) I agree there is a lot of talent in countries such as India, which is why I outsource the bulk of my projects there! It is cheap too! :)

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