Welcome to DZone's new IndicZone community for Indian IT Pros

It is quite important for ALL developers - no matter where in the world they live and work, and no matter what their country of origin - to visit this zone and contribute.

This zone will bring out the best in everybody who is communicating over here. This is the information age, and the constructive thoughts are always going to be welcome - no matter where and when they are expressed.

Progress is a law of Nature, and this is a sign of progress. Free expression in writing or saying is greatly appreciated and is necessary today. Take advantage of the IndicZone resource.

Best regards,

Abhay Bakshi

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BTW, beautiful design! 

Whilst I may not be Indian myself; what a great idea this is, definitely count me in! :-)

There is a lot of "techie" brain power in India; that's for sure.  I have a friend there and he knows a lot of technical things that I, myself, kind of struggle with.  I am not sure why a "zone" has been developed for India, but I agree that a lot of technical information comes from that area.

Angela

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hmmm...,
could be interesting
I was thinkin about this topic
thanks for the post.

Though the idea is great, Have you got any success? How many indian it pros have joined Indiczone?

 Provillus

Would you mind illuminating me and explain why is this so special to IndicZone? Though the idea is great.

Is Indiczone really one of the most important and fastest growing groups in the worldwide IT scene? How can you say that?

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I have to agree that dividing ourselves up into ethnic categories, which, no matter what is said is what is happening here, is a very bad thing.

You can say it's to promote Indian technology, but the reaction you're getting from people should give you pause for thought.

This is the point-  it's not like Indians are not successful in technology; it's not like they're being oppressed.

We understand group identification and solidarity when it's a reaction to oppression and discrimination. When it's not, it starts to look like what Yale Law School professor Amy Chua describes in her book "World On Fire" - an attempt to establish and perpetuate a "market dominant minority" which then wields a disproportionate amount of political and economic power, disenfranchising other minorities in the process and in the extreme establishing an ethnically-defined wealthy elite that colludes to exclude others from wealth and political power.

 That may sound jolly good to some people, but in reality we don't want anything to do with establishing such a regime or being a member of such an elite. It absolutely tears whatever country apart that it emerges in. Maybe Kirill is sensing that, I don't know. Chua gives numerous examples in  Indonesia, Russia, Sierra Leone and other places where that dynamic has been permitted to establish itself  and the blood letting the destruction that follows on its heels.

It's not too much to say that just as Americans have a long sordid history of racial exclusion and concentration of power in the hands of an elite in the U.S., so also Indians have a long history of discrimination based on caste.

Implicitly, Indian technolgists are almost all from the Brahmin caste and the caste system is alive and well in India today. Establishing an Indian Zone is playing to a well primed sentiment that doesn't need to be reinforced in any way.

I think you could see my point if I said I was starting a White Southerner's Zone (but everyone of all races are  welcome) using as a reason that the Sun Belt is so economically important to the U.S. and half of Americans are from the South and it's just a matter of fact that White's started I.T. and everywhere you look you see a White contributing something important to I.T. and the history of I.T. is filled with distinguished Whites. 

 How does that idea strike you? That's how you're making everyone else feel. They're telling you that, but you have to listen. 

 I suggest (implore, really) you and anyone else interested to have an educated and fact based opinion on this subject read Amy Chua's book on what happens to countries that permit market dominant minorities to emerge.  This is what we what to get away from, not move towards.

 You ( meaning, all of us) want to be someone important, at the center of things, making things happen. But with rights comes responsibilities, and one of your responsibilities is to see the larger whole of which you're a part and understand how your actions effect that larger whole. It's irresponsible not to do that work.

I really like the idea behind this.

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